General David Petraeus & Lord Andrew Roberts
16/11/2023
29/4/2024
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War." The Evolution of War since 1945 - With General Petraeus & Lord Andrew Roberts

Contrary to what was widely expected at the start of the present century, the world has not seen the end of major wars, confirming that Plato was right when he wrote that “only the dead have seen the end of war.” These lines come from a new book, just published titled ‘Conflict: The Evolution of Warfare From 1945 to Ukraine.’

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Contrary to what was widely expected at the start of the present century, the world has not seen the end of major wars, confirming that Plato was right when he wrote that “only the dead have seen the end of war.” These lines come from a new book, just published titled ‘Conflict: The Evolution of Warfare From 1945 to Ukraine.’

The book was written by Lord Roberts, a widely respected UK author, and General Petraeus, former CIA Director and former Commander of US Central Command.


In this conversation, Simon speaks to Andrew and David, who discuss some key ideas and themes from the new book. We hear their analysis on some lessons learnt after seven decades of conflict following WW2, including some reflections on the Vietnam War, Iraq/Afghanistan, and the current Ukraine conflict.


Strategy, tactics, leadership, intelligence, research, new technologies and planning for the future are all discussed in this illuminating episode.

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